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    how to identify a Font RIP?

    Does anyone know how to identify a rip font without doing a full install?

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    1) Fontviewer Windows

    Version: .... com.myfonts.foundry.font..

    2) Fontlab / Font Info
    Name and copyright: wrong Font names, Family names etc. - look at myfonts
    Font embedding settings: Everything is allowed
    Version and Identifikation/Type Type Version record: ..com.myfonts.foundry.font..

    Different Filesize, less Glyphs, no or less Open Type Features - look at myfonts

    Glyph Window: defect bezier curves

    3) most Linotype/ Monotype fonts: no digital signatures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fontjunkie View Post
    1) Fontviewer Windows

    Version: .... com.myfonts.foundry.font..

    2) Fontlab / Font Info
    Name and copyright: wrong Font names, Family names etc. - look at myfonts
    Font embedding settings: Everything is allowed
    Version and Identifikation/Type Type Version record: ..com.myfonts.foundry.font..

    Different Filesize, less Glyphs, no or less Open Type Features - look at myfonts

    Glyph Window: defect bezier curves

    3) most Linotype/ Monotype fonts: no digital signatures


    Ok. Very interesting your part Fontjunkie.

    Anyone else can provide other way?

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    stradivarious,

    The points Fontjunkie made are pretty much the only ways to tell if a font is a rip. There is no magic app or flag in a file to tell you if it is original or rip. While a few rippers do change versions or leave "signatures or brands" in the meta data of their rip, this is few and far between, just as few mark the file names, folder names or even the archive name as being a rip, (character conservation I guess?).

    In other-words, unless the ripper tells you explicitly in a clear, straightforward manner that yes this is a rip, then you are left with the easter egg hunt thru the guts of the file checking the various places mentioned in Fontjunkie's list above.

    Tho, to add one more to his list, creation and modify dates can also be a clue.

    Personally, I assume that everything is a rip until proven otherwise...

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    interesting, I only paid attention to missing glyphs before. thanks for the info Fontjunkie

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    Quote Originally Posted by xamiam View Post
    stradivarious,

    The points Fontjunkie made are pretty much the only ways to tell if a font is a rip. There is no magic app or flag in a file to tell you if it is original or rip. While a few rippers do change versions or leave "signatures or brands" in the meta data of their rip, this is few and far between, just as few mark the file names, folder names or even the archive name as being a rip, (character conservation I guess?).

    In other-words, unless the ripper tells you explicitly in a clear, straightforward manner that yes this is a rip, then you are left with the easter egg hunt thru the guts of the file checking the various places mentioned in Fontjunkie's list above.

    Tho, to add one more to his list, creation and modify dates can also be a clue.

    Personally, I assume that everything is a rip until proven otherwise...

    yeah right, ami I think it also happened in the mind, imagine that maybe there was some name or code hidden somewhere for all that could signal their all RIP, but I see it's more complicated than that. thx :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fontjunkie View Post
    1) Fontviewer Windows

    Version: .... com.myfonts.foundry.font..

    2) Fontlab / Font Info
    Name and copyright: wrong Font names, Family names etc. - look at myfonts
    Font embedding settings: Everything is allowed
    Version and Identifikation/Type Type Version record: ..com.myfonts.foundry.font..

    Different Filesize, less Glyphs, no or less Open Type Features - look at myfonts

    Glyph Window: defect bezier curves

    3) most Linotype/ Monotype fonts: no digital signatures
    Hi friend, about "Font embedding settings" in Fontlab, you said "everything is allowed" help us know it's RIP, so I want to ask about ORIGINAL? Is "only printing and previewing of the document is allowed (read-only)? Some fonts has embedding settings is "editing the document is allowed", how about them?
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    Hallo,

    the Font embedding settings can be an hint for a RIP.

    No Original Font i know has Everything is allowed as embedded flag.

    Most of fonts have as flag:

    Only printring and previewing of the document is allowed (read-only)
    Allow subsetting


    Few Fonts can have other flags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fontjunkie View Post
    Hallo,

    the Font embedding settings can be an hint for a RIP.

    No Original Font i know has Everything is allowed as embedded flag.

    Most of fonts have as flag:

    Only printring and previewing of the document is allowed (read-only)
    Allow subsetting


    Few Fonts can have other flags.

    For example Dream Lover (TypeArt) typeface.

    You think it's RIP or ORIGINAL or sth else?







    247 glyphs, TTF like MyFonts's information:
    http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/typeart/dream-lover/regular/specs.html
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    Hallo Asian,

    i seems ok. You can only check the filesize.

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    Great tips!

    Would not surprise me if I had any rip in my font library without being aware of.

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    The only way to be shure the font is original is a valid DSIG table (digital signature) in the font.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samiartur View Post
    The only way to be shure the font is original is a valid DSIG table (digital signature) in the font.
    How to check it, friend?
    If you have problem with my links, PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asian View Post
    How to check it, friend?
    Asian, you need microsoft font validator:

    http://www.microsoft.com/typography/FontValidator.mspx

    Artur

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    Many typefoundries, especially the small ones, don't put DSIG tables insides their fonts because it is necessary to pay for each one.

    In this case there is no way to know if the font is original.

    Artur
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