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Thread: Trade mark for consumable materials (thermal plates) "Saphira".

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    Trade mark for consumable materials (thermal plates) "Saphira".

    I use thermal plate and developer "Saphira".
    Who know about manufacturer this plates?
    Who does sale this plates exept Heidelberg?

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    heidelberg Zaphira plates

    Hi, I have used this plates almout 8 monts the produser is XINGRAPHICS China
    The quality of this plate is not sow good.The chemistry also is durty.Where are you from I could recomend you better and cheeper plate.

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    Thanks for attention to my question.
    I'm from west Ukraine.
    I use this chemistry and plates about 5 month. But i haven't chance to compare with another good brand like Kodak, Fuji, Agfa.
    In compared with noname China, plates Saphira is very good product with low price.

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    You can get both Kodak and Agfa plates from Heidelberg with the Saphira label.

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    If your CtP accepts them, I would recommend Kodak Electra Excel HR plates. Been using them for four yeras now and not a single problem...

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    Agfa energy elite plate it very good !! Cost of plates in circulation cost small what for to save on quality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outcazt View Post
    You can get both Kodak and Agfa plates from Heidelberg with the Saphira label.
    I don't think so.
    Chemistry for plates Agfa, Kodak, XingGraphiks is different. Not possible to use one type developer Saphira for those plates with the same good result. And Heidelberg offer now only one type developer for positive plates - Saphira Pos. IQ.

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    I heard,

    Heidelberg release Saphira Thermal Negative QN (or name something like this) and i've check the quality with Heidelberg Suprasetter. Results is very good and price is cheap than other thermal plates.
    Last edited by Silver_Fox; 05-23-2011 at 12:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombies View Post
    I don't think so.
    Chemistry for plates Agfa, Kodak, XingGraphiks is different. Not possible to use one type developer Saphira for those plates with the same good result. And Heidelberg offer now only one type developer for positive plates - Saphira Pos. IQ.
    I have some Kodak Electra Thermal plate in stock. Do you want me to share some information? Please PM or leave contact.
    Regards, JQ.

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    I think Kodak Electra Excel HR plates is good.

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    So on, are you interested in getting them for stock at fire reasonable price?
    Thank you.

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    Saphira

    Shapira is brand name from Heidelberg consumables.

    It is a OEM product. It can be anything, but still before released using Saphira brand, Heidelberg will do some test to make sure the quality of the product.

    You may have some brand which is actually the same product with Saphira.
    Just make sure that you are using the right combination of Saphira products to have a good result. (Specially with ctp plate and developer....)

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    "Fit" and "Saphira" is the same. Product from XinGraphics, China. You can use any developer. Main problem - unstable emulsion. You can often control plate.

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    Yes, it maybe the same inside the box "FIT" and "Saphira" , but also can be others too like Agfa or Kodak with that label. But for sure that HDM have tested them and have all the correct parameters so the quality of the products are meet with HDM expectation.

    rgds

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    Hi, Saphire plates has a lot of different brands - P, P2, PN, PF, PS, PE.
    I know for sure that P2 is Spanish IPAGSA Plates. I know that there are some FIT xsingraphic plates, not sure which is the "P" for it.

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