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    Buying CTP - help needed...

    Helllo...

    We now have Dolev4press CTF and we want to buy CTP in next few months... We have decided to buy thermal CTP, and we need advice what too buy... we are looking for CTP, 4 UP, 2005. and up, autoloader and stacker (optional)...
    On what to pay attention when buying used CTP... every suggestions and help we will be grateful...

    Nino

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndoring10 View Post
    Helllo...

    We now have Dolev4press CTF and we want to buy CTP in next few months... We have decided to buy thermal CTP, and we need advice what too buy... we are looking for CTP, 4 UP, 2005. and up, autoloader and stacker (optional)...
    On what to pay attention when buying used CTP... every suggestions and help we will be grateful...

    Nino
    if you decide to buy IR ctp, think twice....
    buy new one, without stacker and autoloader

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndoring10 View Post
    Helllo...

    We now have Dolev4press CTF and we want to buy CTP in next few months... We have decided to buy thermal CTP, and we need advice what too buy... we are looking for CTP, 4 UP, 2005. and up, autoloader and stacker (optional)...
    On what to pay attention when buying used CTP... every suggestions and help we will be grateful...


    Nino
    If your are going to buy a pre-owned CTP, you must first determine the burning hours consumed of the thermal head. Ask the current owner when was the last time they replaced the head or are they in a current maintenance program with the CTP dealer or manufacturer. The thermal head costs almost half of the price you are going to pay for the used CTP so it will only be a good deal if the thermal head was only replaced less than two years ago or have consumed only about 10,000 burning hours. You will be much safer if they are engaged in a maintenance program with the supplier because the thermal head replacement is covered within the maintenance deal period.

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    If you are going to buy a used CTP, you need to consider the number of plates per hour, how many printing presses you have, shortrun or longrun jobs, if you are using your current workflow, you need to find out whether you current workflow can output to the CTP you are going to buy

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    Heidelberg Suprasetter CTP

    Hello,

    We test in our market alot of heidelberg suprasetters 75A and 74 both are working fine, easy to use and to service.

    Personaly I recommend the heidelberg suprasetter because it is a heavy duty machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndoring10 View Post
    Helllo...

    We now have Dolev4press CTF and we want to buy CTP in next few months... We have decided to buy thermal CTP, and we need advice what too buy... we are looking for CTP, 4 UP, 2005. and up, autoloader and stacker (optional)...
    On what to pay attention when buying used CTP... every suggestions and help we will be grateful...

    Nino
    Buy a Kodak CTP Thermal, is your best option

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    i recommend Heidelberg CTP.

    Ideal and good 4 UP CTP. Easy to use and optimal for upgrading ad CTF System.

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    Kodak Magnus

    Try with KODAK MAGNUS 400 II - it's great machine.
    If you want high end - than buy with QUANTUM head.
    We have MAGNUS 400 II - and use non process thermal direct plate.
    Look here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKtxbpIlYWc

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    hi
    screen ptr4300 or topsetter 74
    screen recording head cost less then kodak when you want to replace only few diode for screen while kodak the complete head must be replaced

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    Hi, I have a Heidelberg Suprasetter 102. 3 years from now, now problems at all, a few minor consumables for replace. Disadvantage is the price of the heads .. 10 000 eur per head I think..

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    Suprasetter 105

    Quote Originally Posted by luzterin View Post
    Hi, I have a Heidelberg Suprasetter 102. 3 years from now, now problems at all, a few minor consumables for replace. Disadvantage is the price of the heads .. 10 000 eur per head I think..
    Hello the Suprasetter Laser Module (Laser Head) is very stable we have installed on in our press in 2005 and till now we did not replace the laser head and the laser heas power is still under 80%.

    In other words you don't have to worry about the laser head life-time.

    Regards

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    Hello the Suprasetter Laser Module (Laser Head) is very stable we have installed on in our press in 2005 and till now we did not replace the laser head and the laser heas power is still under 80%.

    In other words you don't have to worry about the laser head life-time.
    If it's not a secret.. How many square meters is it ? Our is .. ~ 130 000 m2

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by luzterin View Post
    If it's not a secret.. How many square meters is it ? Our is .. ~ 130 000 m2

    Regards
    if you have 130k m2 consider conventional ctp
    price difference depend of brand is between 2-4$
    saving is at least 130 000 x 2$ = 260 000 $ per year (or 520k $)
    one Ferrari every year

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    escher grad - you can buy a new machine for nearly the price of a used one. Nice and simple and with a harlequin rip

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    Escher Grad have tiff-b catcher implemented in machine, and there is no need to buy new rip, you can continue to use old from CTF, just change hot folder of tiff catcher.

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