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    I use plates of brand Huaguang ,chinese plates is better

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    i'm using konita kpt, printed on kodak trendsetter, and the result is good

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    Watch out for Chinese/Value plates!
    Tried a few different ones IBF/Xing Graphics/Milan
    all with the same results... Crap. They will work your plate setter twice as hard and yield lower quality print

    Fuji/Agfa/Kodak use a 2 layer process, bottom layer being soft and sensitive and a top layer being hard and protective allowing you platesetter to image faster at low intensity.

    "Value plates" chinese/brazil/whatever use a single layer that is harder to image causing the platesetter to run at full intensity and a much slower speed. This uses far more energy, more wear and tear on your laser diodes and run 1/3 slower.

    They also don't hold light screens very well on press especially at higher line screens

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    We tried Chinese plates and had a ton of problems:

    - calibrating them was a nightmare because the plates fluctuated
    - the CTP's laser had to use a LOT more power than regular plates (reducing the laser's life span = very expensive cost to replace)
    - the plates didn't last very long during print (15-20.000 prints at most - our old plates could get 50.000)
    - very very very dirty plates which really can wreck your developer in just a few years, requiring a lot more frequent cleaning and causing a lot more down time

    We calculated all these things and it's just not worth it. The last point alone was not acceptable: with Agfa plates, we could last two months before we had to clean the developer. With the Chinese plates, one week. ONE week!

    We went through gallons of chemistry as well - instead of 20 liters replenisher a day and 60 liters developer once a month, we needed 60 liters developer a WEEK and 30 liters of replenisher a day. This made the cost 100% higher for chemistry alone and the chemistry was a lot unhealthier as well. In a closed room, the fumes were said to be too toxic so we had to leave the doors open causing the humidity to drop.

    I forgot the name of the plates, however, but they were said to be the best Chinese brand available. When the price of the plates is 40% lower but the cost of chemistry twice that and you need several sets for a large order, then the advantages just aren't there ...

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    I use art plates Ipagsa fs-25 and go pretty well, the length of the plate is a little less than kodak but I think worth it for money, the pitch I would not change either kodak or Ipagsa (I was told was worth it) and so far no complaints.
    I hope you will help.

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    I am also using plates of brand Huaguang. They are alright.

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    Today I'll try thermal plate from another Chinese manufacturer together with the same chemistry, details of your goal

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyktors View Post
    I want to ask some questions to anyone using chinese CTP plates.
    1) What brand of plate and what chemistry?
    2) with what CTP manufacturer model it works
    3) how frequently you do linearizations and focus calibrations?
    4) resistance to UV inks?

    I know it is a lot cheaper if you look just at plate price. But what about long term view?

    Cheers
    V.
    1、In china ,the brand of plate is xingraphics's plate
    2、cron CTP
    3、when we change the plate and the CTP machine have problem
    4、If you use the UV inks to printing,you should use the UV plate

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    Chine made low-price device, but sub-quality device

    I have KODAK Magnus 800 from Chine.
    I have processor KODAK and stacker.
    I bough theirs 5 month ago.
    I fixed theirs every week.
    Something always breaks down.
    The brand made ​​in China crap

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    No one using???

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    Chinese CTP plates are good

    I want to ask some questions to anyone using chinese CTP plates.
    1) What brand of plate and what chemistry?
    I use Konita brand of plates..
    2) with what CTP manufacturer model it works
    We use Heidelberg Topsetter 74
    3) how frequently you do linearizations and focus calibrations?
    We make linearizations and focus calibrations one time in 3 months and everything is excellent.
    4) resistance to UV inks?
    We don't use UV inks.

    I have read that lot of people have bad opinion about chinese plates. These people forgot that today 50% of all products are made in china. Konita plates are excellent, we use this plates for 2 years and we have monthly production of 2500 plates. We chage developer and clean the machine once in two months... Our record was 320 plates in 24 hours. From first to last plate all was excellent. So I recommend this plates to everyone. Don't hesitate to use chinese plates.
    Laser power is 10% greater than on fuji plates. But price of plates are 50% lower than Fuji

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    I am satisfied Xingrahpics

    Iam use FIT Xtra Melior

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