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    Inkjet DYE printing on metal

    Hi guys , I honestly don´t know where to post this so here=

    Anyone has experience printing on metal?

    Like ... well I am trying to print my photographs using a copper or aluminium plate instead of paper and my old HP DJ500.

    I know it can be done because I have seen it (and yes , it is with a DYE printer)

    If anyone has experience on this that can share , any advise will me MOST welcome.

    Thank you very much!

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    Junior Member CO3derek is on a distinguished road
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    Two kind of ink can print to copper or aluminium plate.
    1. pigment ink ( metal plate should make coating for pigment ink )
    2. dye ink-Sublimation ( metal plate should make coating for Sublimation )
    sublimation printed result is very good photo quality.

    May be content some key word can help you
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nz8oL6dHRI

    Hope help to you

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    Hi Thank you very much Derek

    Just saw the video , but the kind of printing on metal I am looking for is not via transfer.
    See... there is a ay to print straight on the metal but must cover it with a base. same as when you paint a car first and second coats must be the primer , when primer is done the paint can be applied.

    I remember I saw some lady in youtube doing that with an Epson printer , now... I work with an old HP500 which uses DYE ink (researching on water resistant inks for it now.)

    Long story short : Metal plate + primer + print
    Questions are = Which kind of primer? Should I look for other kind of inks that can be used in my printer?

    Again thank you Derek.

    Cheers!

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    Epson printheads can handle several types of (cheap) inks because their piezo technology.
    HP printheads use thermal inkjet printing. The advanced HP Designjet printers L25500 can use latex inks. But your machine type is primary CAD and use dye inks. Not pigmented inks, not sublimation inks...
    Ask yourself why are so many models on the market?

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    For far i know printing on metal are the UV inkjet printer.

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    Red River and LexJet metalic paper

    This paper looks to be similar between Red River and LexJet
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMZqeYEgTew
    soo liquidy and wet looking (awesome)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0GSjuLx7x8&feature=related

    http://www.revellphotography.com/blog/2010/03/checking-out-the-new-metallic-paper-from-red-river/

    The Red River version is a bit cheaper
    http://www.redrivercatalog.com/browse/66lb-polar-pearl-metallic-inkjet-photo-paper.html
    http://www.lexjet.com/p-3865-LexJet-Sunset-Photo-Metallic-Paper.aspx

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    You'll need a UV capable printer to print on metal and cure the inks properly.

    http://www.rolanddga.com/products/printcut/lec300/

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    Guys , thank you so much for all your replies .
    Now I know is not possible to print on metal with my poor old HP500...
    BUT...
    There is a guy selling a Mutoh Falcon Color RJ800 and I am wondering if this one can do the trick or at least let me print for thermal transfers on to fabric (like hand bags and Tshirts).

    Only thing is he says the printheads are clogged and looking over the net learnt that this thing uses Epson printheads (like insanely expensive!!)
    So my questions are =

    What kind of print head? and if there is a way to un-clog it that really works?

    Any one that knows this printer?

    Thank you so much for all your help , as I said before ... this forum really rocks!

    M.

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    As far as i know UV is the best option for printing on metals, woods.

    Look for a flatbed UV printer

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    RJ800 is the Mutoh version printer for CAD.
    The prindheads used (Epson DX2 - end of line) are easy to unclog.
    As I know, you will able to print only from Autodesk software. There is no driver for RIP or other graphic software. Ask the seller if he can provide that driver.

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    inkjet ink

    Pigment from epson can print on some meterail
    such as wood , glass
    i use rip to control inklimit for it

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    eco ink

    eco ink can use with normal printhead too but pls check the plate is gold
    if yes can use it

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    eco of metal

    you can print to metal by eco ink
    but you must preheating 40-50 degree C first

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    print with ecosolvent...

    But it must heat the steel first...

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    I would use a dye Sublimation process. You can find small epson printers that you can convert to be a sublimation printer. Use a heat press to transfer the ink to the metal.

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