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    Junior Member pruser is on a distinguished road
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    Req: RIP Software for PDF repurposing and flattening

    Hi all,

    I am looking for a "RIP" that can flatten my PDF pages to a very basic compatibility.

    Reason: My new Indigo RIP rejects my PDF files, sometimes even files containing only few pages. They are X1 compatible PDF files without transparency but with one spot color.

    Has anyone an Idea?

    Thx a lot!

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    With Acrobat (PRO version) u can "optimize" files in order to flatten it or make it more compatible.
    In optimize option choose Acrobat 4.0 (PDF 1.4) to maximize compatibility ad resave it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cremos View Post
    With Acrobat (PRO version) u can "optimize" files in order to flatten it or make it more compatible.
    In optimize option choose Acrobat 4.0 (PDF 1.4) to maximize compatibility ad resave it.
    First of all Acrobat 4.0 is PDF version 1.3!

    And PDF /X1 is also version 1.3.

    In 1.3 there are no transparencies allowed and for this reason there is nothing to flatten at all.

    If you are having troubles with spot colors you can convert them to CMYK in Acrobat Pro.

    Or try to export the PDF from Acrobat Pro as PostScript file. Maybe this is the language your RIP likes much more.

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    i use Acrobat 9.0 built in Flattener to Flatten.
    it is very good.

    2-jpg

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    first of all, PDF/X1-a doesn't need any flatenning at all. Also make sure your rip can handle pdfx well. You can download from ghent workgroup some test files to test your rip.

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    Thanks for your ideas!

    The problem persists, even after flattening the PDf with Acrobat. I also spoke with HP technician about the issues with their RIP. They are working with a test PDF I supplied them. Hop they can fix/isolate the RIP problems.

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    You Can Use Some HQ RIP for Make Hi resolution Tif, or can Use Indigo Plugin

    Quote Originally Posted by pruser View Post
    Thanks for your ideas!

    The problem persists, even after flattening the PDf with Acrobat. I also spoke with HP technician about the issues with their RIP. They are working with a test PDF I supplied them. Hop they can fix/isolate the RIP problems.
    Any HQ Rip, Compose, XItron, or similar can output Hi resolution Tif for you Older indigo Press.

    But any PDF/X 1a can be Riped Fine by HP Indigo Rip.

    All desktop aplication can output PDF/X 1a, compatible with your HP Indigo RIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSTG View Post
    ...But any PDF/X 1a can be Riped Fine by HP Indigo Rip....
    Definitely not. About 20% of ouer X1 PDF fail in the Indigo RIP. HP has received a test file and they can reproduce the RIP process failing in their lab. Now they (hopefully) investigate this issue further.

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    You can use AcrobatPro plugin EnfocusPitStop preflight function to detrmine what's wrong with PDF and fix it. it also does miracles with pdf's generated by poorly written software.

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    What Indigo rip

    Which Indigo rip do U use? Is it 5.2? I am working with indigo rip 5.2 and have no problems with pdf X1 files... maybe rip isn`t configured corectly...

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    Wrong color management...

    Hello,

    In Acrobat flattening module i see something strange when flatten archive, the collors is not the same before flattening, in your system maybe you don´t see the differences ut in CTP and CTF systems the separations maybe wrong. I see this failure in Acrobat version 9.

    If somebody note this failure too, share any informations about. Thanks

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    Sure, after reprocesing PDF, our RIP ( KODAK EVO) failure to proess PDF files, with message that something is wrong with color space.

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    I also worked with HP Indigo, I have the same problem as you.
    The solutions, ripping with Esko Flexirip , have the option of internal format of the Indigo.

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    Prinergy EVO

    You can test you file with Prinergy EVO, that support PDF engine non flatten.

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    I use flexisign production server it's no problem with PDF and AI file

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