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    Word/powerpoint files from PC issues

    Is there a way to create a printable pdf from Word or Powerpoint so that it is print ready for production? My colours always seem very flat and I have problems with fonts.

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    I need info about this too
    We usually print pdf from doc and ppt embedding fonts on pc with decent results but if there is special software for it would be great

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    Quote Originally Posted by pj1976 View Post
    Is there a way to create a printable pdf from Word or Powerpoint so that it is print ready for production?
    No, there is no way. Word is an office software, Powerpoint is a sofware made to work only on video systems... so, both use RVB color mode and are not able to take care of CMJN printing necessities, like black N100 only, overprinting, knock-out, color management, etc. meaning that some issues have to be fixed in their PDF before these PDF become printable with a correct quality.



    And beyond this basic problem of inadapted colorimetric mode, there are some other problems with office softwares:

    - these softs are not made to work with vector drawings: the WMF file format is a piece of crap (unable to handle curves), and DTP vector files are not really good handled... so most of the office jobs use only JPEG logos, giving a low-quality offset printing,

    - basic office PDF creation tools used with Word or Powerpoint (direct export, PDFcreator and other free PDF-makers) have a limited reliability... for office use (screen only or single printing on ink-jet printers) it doesn't matter if sometimes a font fails or a letter changes... but for professionnal offset printing use, it could be a big problem if 10,000 flyers are printed with a bad text, or bad fonts or other reliabilty problems!
    (the best method I found is to print a PostScript file on the original PC, and then transfer the .PS file to the Mac, to distill it with Acrobat Distiller on the Mac)

    - I recently got issues with Arial and TimesNewRoman in Word exported PDF, cause these 2 fonts ARE NOT embedded in the PDF... probably Microsoft had decided that it is not necessary to embed them because ALL the PC in the world have these 2 fonts in their system, but in a DTP workflow these missing fonts can besome a serious issue!
    Last edited by leila; 07-31-2011 at 06:49 AM.

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    Which version of Microsoft Office are you using? In office 2010 you can save as word files to pdf. But when you are using office 2007, you have to use a plugin to enable "Save as PDF" option.

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    Office 2007/2010

    I work at a medium sized printing house.
    We have had better results with PDFs created with Office 2007/2010 (which have a 'save as PDF' option).
    The PDFs are still RGB and not sometimes have some problems, but are much better than the previous versions of the office programs.
    After creating the PDF's you can use Acrobat Pro or other programs to convert to CMYK colorspace. Also, you can use these programs to preflight the files.
    The quality of the output is also dependant on the software used to render them for printing (RIP).
    Of course, I would recommend learning more about programs more suited for printing (illustrator, quark, pagemaker etc.) and using them if at all possible.

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    We generate postscript using Adobe Pdf, then take the .ps file and use Acrobat Distiller.
    It's the best option i found. Sometimes we need to reopen the pdf on Illustrator to make some changes but it's a secure way.

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    Thumbs up Adobe Acrobat Professional

    I use Adobe Acrobat Pro to print any applications/programs into PDF file... including Office 2007
    Easy to use,...

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    MS Word

    I hate jobs using Word. Why do clients try to design Fliers etc in Word? Just give us the text in Word & pics as jpgs & let us do the designing. Job done problem solved.

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    pdf

    directly save as pdf/xps in office 2007/2010. works great

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    If there is no other way you can make publication from office application:
    1) Publish to Adobe PDF printer.
    2) Open in Acrobat Pro.
    3) Fix all the images using Touch Up Object tool.
    4) Fix all the colors using Pitstop Global Change.
    5) Save as *.ps.
    6) Normalize by Destiller

    If you still have problems with fonts:
    1) Check fonts in office document - open type causes problems. Replace OTF by TTF.
    2) TTF problems, maybe, can be fixed by using another pdf-printer (JAWS, doPDF etc) - sometimes you need two or more pdf-printers to print correctly all pages from one "office publication".

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.eulampy View Post
    If there is no other way you can make publication from office application:
    1) Publish to Adobe PDF printer.
    2) Open in Acrobat Pro.
    3) Fix all the images using Touch Up Object tool.
    4) Fix all the colors using Pitstop Global Change.
    5) Save as *.ps.
    6) Normalize by Destiller

    If you still have problems with fonts:
    1) Check fonts in office document - open type causes problems. Replace OTF by TTF.
    2) TTF problems, maybe, can be fixed by using another pdf-printer (JAWS, doPDF etc) - sometimes you need two or more pdf-printers to print correctly all pages from one "office publication".
    many ways to creat PDF from Ms office, this is a good method
    after you have PDF file, if PDF file only single page, you should use Illustrator,
    if multi page, use Corel to edit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by congproprint View Post
    many ways to creat PDF from Ms office, this is a good method
    after you have PDF file, if PDF file only single page, you should use Illustrator,
    if multi page, use Corel to edit.
    99% cases it's impossible because of fonts. You have to convert fons to curves in pdf (by Pitstop or IntelliPDF) to use Illustrator or Corel for pdf editing.

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    PDFs from Microsoft Products

    Fonts-Make sure the correct fonts are installed on the PC/Mac before save as PDF.

    Using Pitstop 10:
    Make sure all fonts are embedded.
    Map colours to correct colour using Change Specific Colour
    Create bleed and trim marks using Clean Up Trim Area (absolutely awesome).

    All the above can be set up as Actions in Pitstop, to really make it fly get Pitstop Server.

    To really really make it supersonic use in conjunction with Process Manager from Xerox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.eulampy View Post
    99% cases it's impossible because of fonts. You have to convert fons to curves in pdf (by Pitstop or IntelliPDF) to use Illustrator or Corel for pdf editing.
    yes! certaity outline font before edit.

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    Outlines mean less points - so lesser quality.

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