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    Quote Originally Posted by univers1314 View Post
    PDF is good format for print.Because pdf is workflow file format
    you can use "plug_ins" to edit pdf files (For example:pitstop ,heidelberg toolbox)

    The standard pdf format for print

    no OPI
    no icc embedded
    embedded fonts or fonts outline
    no Low resolution pictutes
    no RGB model
    no lab model
    no white overprint
    All is said.

    To be sure when you create pdf, choose pdf/x. It's a norm but the problem in prepress you can't modify with pitstop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leila View Post
    Hey, guy, have to stay up-to-date: 20th century and its old crappy one-page EPS files are over... yet are the 21st century and modern PDF!

    Outlining fonts was an old method used in the last century to avoid font troubles when sending old EPS files, as EPS was not able to embed the fonts... but EPS is now outdated, and outlining has no more reason to be used, mainly because PDF files CAN easily embed the fonts: that's even one of its major feature and advantage, avoiding the need of outlining fonts in PDF.

    By the way, its always better to keep the fonts "live" in a PDF: the PDF are lighter, they are processed easier and quicker by the RIPs, last minute (little) text corrections remain possible, and, mainly, the hints are kept and can act, allowing a better rasterization of the glyphs, especially for little size of text at low resolution, like 600 dpi digital laser printing or low-cost 720 dpi ink-jet printing.
    What does keeping the fonts "live" mean, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiv View Post
    PDF is the best way to go. Convert the text to curves and do not re-sample the images.
    One of the most interesting features of the PDF format (even probably THE number-one feature) is fonts embedding, avoiding the need of curving the text...

    The second advantage of using PDF, is that all good PDF makers (export, distiller, or others) are able to downsample the pictures to eliminate all unuseful pixels and make lighter files, without the need of wasting much time to manually adjust exactly the resolution and size of each picture.


    So, if you want files with text curved and pictures "as is", or if you are not able to handle PDF correctly, go back 15 years earlier and ask for EPS! or make another job...

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    PDF is a good option but not any PDF

    From Indesign you can either export to pdf or make a postscript file then you can use Adobe distiller, sitting pdfx-1. If you are using Illustrator as design software, it is recommended to save as eps then use Adobe distiller as above mentioned.

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    I think that the PDF Format seems to be a unanimous response. I would ad that we began requiring our customers supply only PDF/X-1a:2001 format a few years ago and have reduced the majority of problems we used to have. I think it is the way to go, and since all major publishing software has the ability to export in this format, it is easy to teach your customers how to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by javers View Post
    If you are using Illustrator as design software, it is recommended to save as eps then use Adobe distiller as above mentioned.
    Distilling an EPS, although it is possible, is always a very bad practice, that doesn't produce "clean" PDF and is strongly NOT recommended!!!
    If the printer wants a distilled PDF, you better create a PS file and distill this PS file, but not an EPS.

    It's better to make the PDF directly from Illustrator, with the "Save as PDF" command.
    (and for a "ready to print" PDF, in most cases it's better to uncheck the option "Keep Illustrator editing fonction").


    And for those who use Illustrator as a layout software (which it is not, so it's a very bad habit!!!), the "Save as PDF" fonction will also allow to output multi-pages PDF.
    Last edited by leila; 01-29-2012 at 06:50 AM.

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    PDF x 1-a

    PDF x/1-a is the format of choice in our shop. Also look into enfocus instant pdf for your regular clients as a tool to help them create consistent pdfs everytime.

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    PDF/X-4 would be my choice now.

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    how about Postscript?many people say that postscript image better than pdf image..
    thank

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    PDF as supplied file.

    This is more complicated than initially thought and depends largely on what process and RIP's your files will go through.

    PDF with No compression, No downsampling, and embedded Font's is a good start.

    Layer support can cause issues for some RIP's so its sometimes a good idea to send the source document as well.

    Depending on who you are submitting to, they should be able to provide you with color management settings they prefer. Get them from the printer if you can.

    As a generalization I turn color management off in Indesign and Acrobat, letting the RIP handle this based on the printers profiles

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    Pdf

    In this day and age there is really no longer a question on this.
    PDF with embedded fonts is the only way to go

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    PDF -> Wikipedia the best standard for your shop, but x/1a is great!!

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    As said above PDF X/1-a and a quick glance with pitstop in order to check any client side errors... and ready to go

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    Respect

    PDF is the optimal format for prepress, beacuse this is editable (eg. PitStop) and platform independent (PC, MAC, WIN, MacOS, Linux, etc).

    But there are some important thing to know, and makes PDF:
    - without ICC Profile
    - with embedded font or outline fonts
    - without OPI
    - without low resolution images
    - without RGB and LAB images
    - without white overprint

    And another important think is: DON'T USE the built in PDF generators from Illustrator or Indesign, USE Adobe Distiller to makes PDF files!

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    Pdf. We are trying to educate our customers how to do a perfect pdf. We offer support how to install our pdf output presets.

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