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    Junior Member duledux is on a distinguished road
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    i use pdf for print production. after rip i made tiff files for gravure and len files for ctp for flexo. pdf is input for prepress

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    Quote Originally Posted by leila View Post
    Hey, guy, have ...
    embeded fonts is not always perfect, i had problems with a few files that didnt had the fonts embeded correctly, even when the client sent me the original files in indesign i had to replace the font cause the one they had didnt let me embed or outline it

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    Quote Originally Posted by univers1314 View Post
    PDF is good format for print.Because pdf is workflow file format
    you can use "plug_ins" to edit pdf files (For example:pitstop ,heidelberg toolbox)

    The standard pdf format for print

    no OPI
    no icc embedded
    embedded fonts or fonts outline
    no Low resolution pictutes
    no RGB model
    no lab model
    no white overprint
    i will add
    no downsample of images, high quality jpg compression
    make sure how many colors do you want to print
    make sure spot colors are spot color a not cmyk
    black text only in black chanell, no cmy mix
    pages with at least 3mm of bleeding

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    Quote Originally Posted by maeiwill View Post
    and olso postscript are better for image
    but ps files can be extremely big, also if you dont want to loose image quality dont donwsample the images when distilling the file

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    @all,,, how about flatten transparency? is it matter for the RIP?

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    Hi everybody,
    We using pdf with embedded fonts and ps files.
    and its works fine, can not be said about those cases when the yield CorleDraw:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpanos07 View Post
    eps for me is it same for pdf
    inconvenient to use because of the lack of pages

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    Pdf

    Im sure pdf with embeded font is the best format

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    Always ask printer

    I use trueflow which handles pfd very well indeed, but my main problems occur when i am supplied badly made pdf.
    Try telling your client that his pdf with outline fonts cannot be edited easily and will cost - they dont understand.
    I send out the trueflow pdfx4 setting supplied by screen for use in distiller to anyone who asks what I require.
    Also a little "to do" sheet explaining bleeds, colour space and other bits.
    I cannot remember a pdf that has not worked when the client has ASKED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kunkuno View Post
    embeded fonts is not always perfect, i had problems with a few files that didnt had the fonts embeded correctly...
    Basically, embedding fonts works fine with good fonts...
    And if you can outline the fonts in a PDF, it means that they are correctly embedded... and if they are correctly embedded, they will output correctly without needing to be outlined... so,be sure that if you can outline fonts in a PDF, it means that they don't need to be outlined!!!
    And if you cannot print the PDF because the font are badly embedded or not embedded, you also cannot outline them...


    Mostly this problem with bad fonts embedding happens when:
    - PDF are made from office softwares... and there is no way to outline fonts in Word
    - PDF are made by bad designers or butchers using bad fonts... mainly crappy free fonts downloaded from internet, including fonts with hidden restrictions of use...


    So, in fact:

    - people who are able to outline fonts and have the softwares to do that are also those who are enough skillful to select good fonts and make good PDF that do not need outlining, and there is no need to ask them to outline fonts...

    - but people that butcher PDF with office softwares or DTP softwares that they are not able to handle, using free crappy fonts do not have the competence to outline fonts, and you will have to cope with their incompetence and crappy PDF with not or bad embedded fonts, even if you ask for outlined fonts!!!



    , even when the client sent me the original files in indesign i had to replace the font cause the one they had didnt let me embed or outline it
    Yes, that's the case of bad designers working with bad fonts!... the kind of fonts that you can download from free fonts sites like Dafont, that let anybody get fonts that seems to be usable for graphic design, but that have hidden restrictions of use that make them finally "unembeddable" in a PDF... and generally the "designer" is unable to fix the problem and you have to cope yourself with his crap.
    Of course, he can outline the fonts to fix the problem (if he is able to do outlining...) but there is no need to outline ALL the fonts: he needs only to outline the words/sentences/titles using the restricted font-s.

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    Ofcourse PDF! But intelligent made PDF, from literate people.

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    Any file format will have a mistake, carefully before important.

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    No doubt, PDF.

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    pdf/x1a or pdf/x4 if your RIP is working with transparencies well.

    avoid coreldraw sources at all :)

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    PDF is the best way to go. Convert the text to curves and do not re-sample the images.

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