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    X-Rite I1 pro

    Agree, the only choice still the ProfileMaker Packaging, EyeOne also do not have the polarized filter. The Spectral data have only 10nm, compare with SpectroEye is 3nm resolution.

    That's the big different.

    We have to live with this technology that fulfill some market of printing, like offset, proofing and color management.

    Packaging industry always need something else. :-(

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    X-Rite I1 pro

    Anyone of you alredy use new calibrating solution for monitor from X-Rite i1pro?

    http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=1454

    Have this measurement device calibrate wide gamut display as well?

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    From their website:

    Next generation i1Profiler software for calibrating and profiling all modern display and projector technologies including LED & Wide Gamut LCDs

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    i1Display incorporates new technologically advanced filter and optical systems, amazingly fast measurement speed, and unrivaled color accuracy on all modern display technologies including LED & Wide Gamut LCDs.

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    I'm using the new software - i1Profiler, with impressive results. Since I've only an i1Pro, I can't tell you about the new colorimeters, but they should be better and faster since spectros have trouble measuring the dark colours.

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    Hello,

    I have one. It works very well and fast! Do you have a special question about it?
    Once again: very fast, very good result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamilo1973 View Post
    Anyone of you alredy use new calibrating solution for monitor from X-Rite i1pro?

    http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=1454

    Have this measurement device calibrate wide gamut display as well?
    It certainly can be a good wide-gamut monitor calibration.

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    i1pro Basic

    I bought i1pro Basic since i want to get into printing and reproduce paintings and drawings on fineartpaper
    I am not sure about upgrading with x-rite to iPublish or using software from basiccolor?

    Any helpful hints are welcome

    Regards from hamburg

    straus

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    i1 devices

    Quote Originally Posted by shampa View Post
    I was not aware that the newer i1Pro uses LED illumination. That's a shame. Do you know if they are still labelled rev.D or are they rev.E or some new model number?
    I have been seriously misinformed. Just proves that it is always a good idea to check the facts for oneself, even if the person giving the information is a so-called colour management expert. I've just checked the X-Rite website & according to them, the most recent i1Pro spectro is still using "Light source: Gas filled tungsten (Type A)". As for the ColorMunki, I believe it could possibly also have a tungsten lamp as in the specifications X-Rite will not reveal the actual type of lamp in use but does say that UV compensation is always enabled (in the software).

    Now I'm a little confused because the person who said that the newer i1Pro devices use LED lamp also said this was part of the reason why they are able to read strip measurements somewhat faster than the original Rev. A devices. Does anyone here know if this is true, that the Rev. D can read strips faster than the Rev. A devices? I would have thought it would have more to do with the hardware or firmware than what type of lamp is illuminating the patches but I'm no engineer, that's for sure so it's just a guess.

    But all of the above doesn't answer the question of why the Rev. A i1Pro can be placed into an i1IO & read 500 patches per minute & at a much smaller patch size when the exact same device, when used with the hand-measured-strip-ruler must read the strips/patches so much slower. Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron125 View Post
    Does anyone here know if this is true, that the Rev. D can read strips faster than the Rev. A devices? I would have thought it would have more to do with the hardware or firmware than what type of lamp is illuminating the patches but I'm no engineer, that's for sure so it's just a guess.
    According to [URL="http://www.argyllcms.com/doc/instruments.html"]www.argyllcms.com[/URL]:
    There have been three revisions of the Eye-One Pro, Rev. A, B and D. The rev D is capable of sampling twice as fast as the Rev. A and B versions of the instrument, and is also available with an ambient light reading capability.
    As for my own observations - emission readings with i1Pro Rev.D is in 1.5 times faster than with Rev.B. I have used both for GRACoL monitor certification procedure. With Rev.B it takes 45 minutes to read 1617 patches, with Rev.D - 30 minutes.
    To determine the speed of sampling in strip mode, I have used argyll tool (chartread) for chart reading in debugging mode. It displays the time spent on strip reading and the total number of samples.

    I have got the following data for measurements made with i1Pro Rev.D:
    Steps in each Pass = 21
    Passes in each Strip = 9
    Instrument Type: Eye-One Pro
    Firmware version: 506
    U.V. filter ?: No
    Total lamp usage: 5713.895020

    Strip A:
    Read 609 readings (3566 msec)
    Strip B:
    Read 546 readings (3264 msec)
    Strip C:
    Read 567 readings (3384 msec)
    Strip D:
    Read 651 readings (3745 msec)
    Strip E:
    Read 504 readings (3064 msec)
    Strip F:
    Read 525 readings (3155 msec)
    Strip G:
    Read 525 readings (3175 msec)
    Strip H:
    Read 504 readings (3075 msec)
    Strip I:
    Read 462 readings (2894 msec)
    Average speed of sampling for i1Pro Rev.D is 166.58 samples/sec

    Measurements made with i1Pro Rev.B:
    Steps in each Pass = 21
    Passes in each Strip = 9
    Instrument Type: Eye-One Pro
    Firmware version: 302
    U.V. filter ?: No
    Total lamp usage: 266882.500000

    Strip A:
    Read 546 readings (3275 msec)
    Strip B:
    Read 525 readings (3144 msec)
    Strip C:
    Read 504 readings (3075 msec)
    Strip D:
    Read 609 readings (3565 msec)
    Strip E:
    Read 567 readings (3375 msec)
    Strip F:
    Read 609 readings (3575 msec)
    Strip G:
    Read 588 readings (3475 msec)
    Strip H:
    Read 504 readings (3075 msec)
    Strip I:
    Read 588 readings (3475 msec)
    Average speed of sampling for i1Pro Rev.B is 167.67 samples/sec

    It's possible to do the same test for emission measurements, using argyll dispread tool. I didn't do it due to the lack of free time and my laziness

    Hope this help
    Cheers,
    CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamilo1973 View Post
    Anyone of you alredy use new calibrating solution for monitor from X-Rite i1pro?

    http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=1454

    Have this measurement device calibrate wide gamut display as well?
    Hi,

    yes it does.
    Next generation i1Profiler software for calibrating and profiling all modern display and projector technologies including LED & Wide Gamut LCDs

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmp View Post
    I use i1 pro
    I use i1 pro too.

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    i1 devices speed samples

    i1 rev A is oldest one. i think that is produced only one (or two) year .
    i have article somewhere about difference between rev a and others
    main difference is: rev A sample at 50Hz other devices sample at 100Hz
    In that time GretagMacbeth have offer that for price of certification you can upgrade device from rev a to rev b.
    it's very rare device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by super silja View Post
    i have article somewhere about difference between rev a and others
    main difference is: rev A sample at 50Hz other devices sample at 100Hz
    I think I've heard or read that somewhere too, about the 50/100Hz sampling rate but I also trust ColorWizard & his reports from Argyll, so where does the 50/100Hz come in, as both revisions are sampling at well over 150Hz according to Argyll?

    Also, doesn't make much sense that the Argyll sampling rates are almost identical & actually, the Rev. B is ever so slightly faster. So I'm a bit lost now because we all know the Rev. D i1 devices will read quicker in real-world use than the Rev. A or B yet their sampling rates are so very similar in these Argyll reports.

    Any ideas?

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    Scanning speed of Rev.B vs. Rev.D

    In the test has been used only Rev.B and Rev.D device. Unfortunately I have not had the opportunity to test i1 Pro Rev.A.
    According to the X-Rite document, mentioned by super silja, Rev.B and Rev.D devices have the same speed of sampling - 200 Hz. It was confirmed by results of the test in reflection measurement mode - average speed of sampling for both devices is about 167 samples per second.
    As for emission measurement mode, subjectively, the speed of sampling of device Rev.D is in 1.5 times higher than that of device Rev.B. To obtain an objective assessment it need further testing. I will report the results as soon as they become available.
    Cheers,
    CW

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