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    This is a clear example of software that performs well the graphic work

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    Quote Originally Posted by servitz View Post
    I used Pantone HexWares 2.0. This is plugin for Photoshop.
    It converts RBG to Hexahrome 6 colors.
    But result is quite not good, realy not good!!!...
    I have the same experience too, can anyone who achieve good result from Pantone HexWares share your experiences? Thanks!

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    we recently helped someone to achieve good hexa prints.

    First of all the printer has to be able to control gradation (measurement & dot gain compensation) for all the six colours. Values can be obtained from profiles if you have an appropriate tool (i.e. ProfileEditor)
    We also had to edit the Pantone profile (it had an error in white point).
    After that we were able to generate good separations and acceptable prints (the printer wasn't applying dot gain compensation).
    The sad thing is that Hexware is so old that our client had to install MacOS 8.6 and an old Photoshop to be able to work. You can use PhotoshopCS4 or CS5 for converting to multicolour but only for bitmaps.

    The other way is to start from the scratch, characterize your printing machine (using one of the multichannel-capable profile generating software) and use that profile for separation in CS4 or later.

    And don't forget, you should convert from RGB and NOT from CMYK.

    I can send you the edited profile if you wish.

    Good luck.

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    Thanks PanozJani,

    I would appreciate if you could share your profiles and software in addition to your experience in this regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horris View Post
    Thanks PanozJani,

    I would appreciate if you could share your profiles and software in addition to your experience in this regard.
    Tell me where to upload it (i don't have any accounts on file sharing sites) or give me an e-mail address. Unfortunately i can send you only the profiles (edited and unedited) - i don't have Hexware.

    Since Pantone's original profiles don't contain the measurements, it is quite hard to determine the gradations of individual channels...
    Last edited by PanozJani; 11-16-2011 at 10:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apa_Cska View Post
    Maybe this one?

    http://mac.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Aurelon-CoCo-Screenshot-10001.html


    (or as I remember, the good old quarkXpress is also capable to generate HiFi color separations:)

    And Esko's solutions, of course

    Kaleidoscope, or Equinox




    (and one more unique: Chimigraph's HeptaChromia solutions, but its more by one, means 7 color printing from 12 base inks :))

    But the main difficulty is to make right proof from this kind of preparing, thats why they are not commonly used, as i know
    hi
    can you explain to me plz how to manage hifi with quark thanks or if have any pdf for that

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    Hexachrome

    Most easy to use is plugin Pantone HexWare, however the best it is ProfileMaker

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    Hexachrome

    I tried Hexware with not v good results. However we were trying it without using hexachrome inks

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    I have to ask a question... How much more color are your clients looking for than what CMYK offers ?
    I would also look at some high end CMYK Inks or even have your ink supplier custom make some high pigment count inks. This generally leads to some better gamut coverage.
    Using semi fluorescent inks can also help widen the gamut. Running the press a bit above recommended densities also helps and of course running the press real slow will give more contact to the ink itself and consider using IR dryer set to very high to start the ink oxidation and drying process faster.
    Hope this helps without you going through Hex printing. I have seen CorelDraw to be able to output using Hexachrome. Maybe you try that?

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    We looked at Hexachrome in terms of viability and whether or not you can justify the costs and the conclusion we reached was a resounding no.

    Most of our customers were not prepared to pay the premium required to cover the costs of extra plates, inks etc - and not only that colour control and registration issues are that much more critical.

    A whole new ball-game if you are coming from experienced 4 colour litho printing.

    Just a thought.

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    I've recently seen an Equinox demo from Esko; it was realy impressive.
    The soft optimize the separation to minimize the color distortion and dispay deltaE from the original file.
    You can chose to map primary color with pantone tint or complete the gamut to obtain the best result.
    Amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapadmal View Post
    I've recently seen an Equinox demo from Esko; it was realy impressive.
    The soft optimize the separation to minimize the color distortion and dispay deltaE from the original file.
    You can chose to map primary color with pantone tint or complete the gamut to obtain the best result.
    Amazing
    Anybody can share Equinox software? Is it included in the Suite DVD?

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    i have also made use of the Equinox demo, and can confirm their seperation quality are the best

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    Heidelberg has the full workflow for Hexachrome printing...I would recommand most

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    Quote Originally Posted by faust View Post
    Anybody has experience in that field?
    I think the best is I1PROFILER.

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