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    Quote Originally Posted by legraph View Post
    No you can, but if you have the color manager on you EFI XF, you will get a prefect color calibration. it really works well.
    I agreed, but i already have RGB-profile and doing proofs everyday. Perfect calibration taken time ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by colorinlab View Post
    Hi.

    Try the best ome (much better than ProfileMaker). Color-Logic ZePrA
    my spanish is not good today, but i understand that zepra is color conversion not profiling tool
    i am right?

    when we talk about multicolor profile.
    1. for proof you don't need it
    2. You need MC in packaging industry to make separation, 4 cmyk + orange and green ( for example)
    or 6 custom color .
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    Quote Originally Posted by super silja View Post
    when we talk about multicolor profile.
    1. for proof you don't need it
    Hello super silja!
    Actually, after launching Epson x900 models it's necessary to use it to get bigger gammut on proofer. Because at some circumstances Eposn x900 looks like a 6-color printer from RIP' side (e.g. EFI ColorProof XF with HT driver and CMYKOGcmk mode).
    Now I'm playing with profiling 4900 in this mode with i1Profiler. And it makes pretty accurate MC profiles, at least it's enough to fit ISO 12647-7 with a double store accuracy.

    Quote Originally Posted by super silja View Post
    2. You need MC in packaging industry to make separation, 4 cmyk + orange and green ( for example)
    or 6 custom color .
    Yes, and also MC profiles are usefull to make proofs of such MC-separated files.

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    Hello,
    Years ago I created Hexachrome and 7C (CMYKOGB) MC profiles with Heidelberg Color Toolbox together with measuring device Image Control. I got very accurate MC profiles very quickly. After print RGB images and printed samples had very close match in softproof station. I vote for Color Toolbox.

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    Hello super silja!
    Actually, after launching Epson x900 models it's necessary to use it to get bigger gammut on proofer. Because at some circumstances Eposn x900 looks like a 6-color printer from RIP' side (e.g. EFI ColorProof XF with HT driver and CMYKOGcmk mode).
    Now I'm playing with profiling 4900 in this mode with i1Profiler. And it makes pretty accurate MC profiles, at least it's enough to fit ISO 12647-7 with a double store accuracy.
    yes you're right, i forgot this.
    but it's good that you mention that without OG you have best accuracy.
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    Multicolor Ink Convert for special color set separations

    Maybe colorinlab is referring to the "devicelink profiles" inside Zepra. :P
    Or the devicelink profile generator, Copra.

    Yes. Zepra is a color server. And you will be needing devicelink profiles as its nutrition.
    The best the devicelinks are the better the outcome you can generate/convert.

    In addition. Devicelink profiles revolutionizes the separation and editing of multi-channel files. By analyzing the full color gamut of the images and calculates a new set of separations optimizing the original colors.

    It post-separates CMYK multi-channel files into another desired set of special colors. Converting the spot color objects in different channel instantly for optimum flexibility and creativity. Devicelink profiles works on the full image, instead of the typical task of individually modifying each separations thus guarantees you get quick and reliable results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscarpla View Post
    The new i1 ICC Profiler can profile up to 8 colors, but always based on CMYK + Any colors.
    beware n-profiling in i1 profiler it was buggy at least in version 1.0.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrdee999 View Post
    beware n-profiling in i1 profiler it was buggy at least in version 1.0.0
    The latest 1.2.0 works with n-color profiling like a charm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    The latest 1.2.0 works with n-color profiling like a charm!
    wow. I'm glad to hear it, cause it failed on me. did you buy the soft or you were lucky to find 'something' to make it work? ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrdee999 View Post
    wow. I'm glad to hear it, cause it failed on me. did you buy the soft or you were lucky to find 'something' to make it work? ;)
    I have the licensed one.

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    AlexG - for what RIP you created profiles? and if it possible can you upload one or two samples of the profiles you created and if you have for semi-glossy heavy papers that would be great - but if it is a big deal it is ok I might get the v1.2.0 later to try it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrdee999 View Post
    AlexG - for what RIP you created profiles? and if it possible can you upload one or two samples of the profiles you created and if you have for semi-glossy heavy papers that would be great - but if it is a big deal it is ok I might get the v1.2.0 later to try it out
    I used i1P to profile Epson 7900 and 4900 with EFI ColorProof XF v 4.5 for proofing purposes. Also I used it successfully to profile Epson GS6000 with ONYX PosterShop X10 for LFP.

    I'll try to upload profiles tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    I used i1P to profile Epson 7900 and 4900 with EFI ColorProof XF v 4.5 for proofing purposes. Also I used it successfully to profile Epson GS6000 with ONYX PosterShop X10 for LFP.

    I'll try to upload profiles tomorrow.
    First of Thank you!
    as for EFI ColorProof XF v7 I notices that though their tools to profile are quick and at some point are very helpfull profiles produced by EFI have tendency (of older profiling apps) to shift colors Red shifts to orange and blue shifts to violet
    so external profiling soft is necessary to get wider gamut and correct colors I guess
    but I'm talking only about "Perceptual workflow" for fine art photography NOT proofing - it seems that for proofing EFI is pretty pretty good

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