I install it and i think it have all i need the problem is how i use it? I read the manual but no have a workflow explanation. only have the descriptions and the functions of the different parts.
any one work with toolbox i have too much questions.
Thanks and sorry my english.
Last edited by Neowolf; 05-20-2011 at 03:33 AM.
All things you mention except icc profiling should be done in rip. Without proper training it will take some time ... After few years you will be expirienced with all kind rips and you will see what kind of crap is on the market.
For Icc generation you can take it pm5 or I1 publish or Hd color tools or Monaco
- litographer sais something about hammer :)
I think Onyx ProductionHouse X10 can do all
Allthough, as silja mentions, you do need a decent understanding of the processes & ICC profiling in general or you will have many headaches as there are so many options & you really need to know why one option would be better than another, instead of just using defaults or trying to learn as you go.
A RIP can do all the things you request and even beyond that. A normal profiling package can not control ink limit and black ink or dot, X-Rite's free ColorPort allows for linearized profiling although it's not necessary for RGB profiling workflows.
This software is most interesting for the press work from home
Also, RGB output devices definitely do need linearization, its just that the vast majority of RGB output devices aren't actually RGB devices at all. The Mac & Windows OS drivers cannot process CMYK data only RGB (actually, it's the way both OS work, not the driver itself that causes this to happen), but as we all know, the inks in inkjet printers are CMYK, not RGB. Therefor, it isn't really possible (certainly not simple & easy the way it is to linearize a CMYK device) to linearize a printer that has RGB input but CMYK output because you can't measure (for example) if I give the printer a 10% input, do I get a 10% output because it won't be 10% of anything RGB, rather some mix of CMYK inks.
Now, think of a laser photographic printer, such as Durst Lambda or similar - they definitely need to be linearized because now giving a 10% input can be measured & correlated with what the printer is outputting onto the substrate.
Just thought I'd clear that up so you don't get confused.
What are those links you've pasted into your post supposed to be for? Do you realise that they are completely unuseable in the form you've copy/pasted them in because some forums will automatically change the link such that one has to right-click & select 'copy shortcut' to get the entire link/actual working, useable URL. What you have pasted in is the alias which, as can be seen by the dots (....) is missing quite a bit of whatever it's supposed to be.
What proggy are the links meant to be for anyway?
And sell your i1 UVcut and buy one without it. (trust me, we have both type, and we are on this market for 10 years)
I think Profile Maker 5.1 and Agfa Apogee Color for best result.
You are correct Sir, XF is indeed a RIP!
It is also a "Complete profiling tool", just as was asked for in the original query for this thread. It will perform all stated objectives, which no 'ordinary' profile creation software is able to do.
How can all of the stated objectives be accomplished without using a RIP? I don't know of any other way all of them can be performed.
Also, a RIP program was actually mentioned in the opening post, FlexiSign 8.5. So Neowolf already knew a RIP would be needed to satisfy his objectives.
But you are correct about XF being a RIP, thanks for pointing that out.
maybe me or maybe you miss something
he don't need RIP! he need profiling swOriginally Posted by neowulf
what i say that what he mention is beyond of scope of icc profiling tool
and what i say isOriginally Posted by neowulf
i did not found that he asks for rip. where you found in his post that he asks for rip?Originally Posted by super silja
and what he say
efi is in my opinion one of best proofing/large format/wide format printing solution. it's powerful, flexible ...Originally Posted by neowulf
but .... you miss point
according EFI, you're welcome
@ JANIDepending of quantity of OBA and profiling solution (SW) , sometime UV Cut feature is welcomeAnd sell your i1 UVcut and buy one without it. (trust me, we have both type, and we are on this market for 10 years)
i prefer measurement without UV, but for production.... i think ( maybe i am wrong)... it's not necessary to be "100% color purist"
i like to hear from experienced person what kind or problem you have with UV cut devices?
knowledge is power!
power to be your best!
Last edited by super silja; 08-02-2011 at 01:42 PM.