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    Junior Member ecrm is on a distinguished road
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    Color management for metallic color

    Hello,

    I was wondering if anyone do color management for metallic color or metallic substrate? This is actually for the label printing industry where people use all sort of fancy color and fancy substrate. Any idea?

    Thanks.

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    hi

    im too need this im working in gravure printing and plz if you have any book for gravure upload it

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    well....mettalic inks are out of any color management. because they are out of lab color space. i haven't seen any linearization tool for it so far. only thing left is to play with internal metallic spot table and edit pantones manually according to personal feeling of color. its not a perfect idea but at the end you will have personal good table

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    rhguru is right.

    you can't measure metallic colors with conventional (0/45 geometry) color measuring devices since the metallic particles will fool them. (there are expensive (sphere)spectros for industrial purposes).

    so you must print your own color guide if you want predictable color.
    Last edited by PanozJani; 04-05-2012 at 01:02 AM.

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    you can do this, but with analog system, not on digital.
    if you need more info, PM me.

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    dubhead
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    Prolly that Caddon Box can do ..since it works spectrally..also used for Cotton , Fabric stuff.

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    Junior Member ecrm is on a distinguished road
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    I've heard people trying to do this by using a multi-angle spectrometer which claim to give you the closes and consistent reading.

    Not sure if anyone in this forum have experience doing this.

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    Metall, brass ets... coatings its not color. Out of Lab.

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    What is your printer ? Roland VS ?

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    flake
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    Yes I think the printer don't have the design for the metallic color.
    Well metallic is mine favorite color and I like to this one very much...At my home I decor to my home by this color at wall and floor is of wood.

    www.expresskoozies.com
    Last edited by flake; 05-19-2012 at 03:43 AM.

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    Tough theme

    Quote Originally Posted by ecrm View Post
    I was wondering if anyone do color management for metallic color or metallic substrate?
    Many people does. Mind your car painter e.g. :) The question is what kind of managment of metallics you inquire.

    For simple color matching, on conditions of same inks and substrate, imho, there's not even need for 0/diff spectrophotometer - but is it a Management at all? :)

    The theme is tough, but rather ancient - starting with Judd-Wyszecki "Color in science... etc." would be appropriate, I think.

    Good luck with your curiosity :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanozJani View Post
    rhguru is right.

    you can't measure metallic colors with conventional (0/45 geometry) color measuring devices since the metallic particles will fool them. (there are expensive (sphere)spectros for industrial purposes).

    so you must print your own color guide if you want predictable color.
    im sorry icant get the website if you can plz load it

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    here is an example (actually these are multi-angle spectros)
    Code:
    Only the registered members can see the download links/content. pleaseĀ Register to gain full access.

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    Metal substrate color management to measure the degree of difficulty, reflective of the problem not been resolved, and is difficult to accurately.

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    Zarrazza
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    Isn't it a bit useless as long as these are spot colors...?

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