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    Question to ArtiosCAD experts

    Hello everybody
    I just make my first steps in Artios CAD 7.6.
    When I create box using "Run Standard" option , I ‘m trying to change a CMV notch parameters in all 4 related part of the box
    After I adjusted the parameters, it affects only one CMV notch in 1 corner. The rest is remains unchanged. So is there any solution for this issue? Is there is any option in ArtiosCAD I have to select, to be able to change parameters in all 4 CMV notch corners at the same time?
    I looked in manual but couldn’t find the way to do it.
    Your help will be greatly appreciated.
    Cheers
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    Last edited by pochtalion; 08-05-2011 at 11:14 PM.

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    I used this software for many years, but don't know the function of "CMV notch".
    Maybe you can call the engineer of ESKO for help:)

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    Thanks for your reply robin
    please look at the attachment. in previous post so you'll see what I mean
    Thanksl

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    I tried it, but I don't see any "CMV notch".

    Wich FEFCO code did you try?

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    Maybe there's another variable need to be changed / or could be a bug.

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    What's the function of this notch? i can't find anybody knows for what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pochtalion View Post
    Hello everybody
    I just make my first steps in Artios CAD 7.6.
    When I create box using "Run Standard" option , I ‘m trying to change a CMV notch parameters in all 4 related part of the box
    After I adjusted the parameters, it affects only one CMV notch in 1 corner. The rest is remains unchanged. So is there any solution for this issue? Is there is any option in ArtiosCAD I have to select, to be able to change parameters in all 4 CMV notch corners at the same time?
    I looked in manual but couldn’t find the way to do it.
    Your help will be greatly appreciated.
    Cheers
    1)There is an option...copy and place it , simply!
    2)With the select tool, copy just the notch lines(see attached JPGs)
    3)Choose the "Copy and mirror Vertical" tool and click the point shown in second JPG. This will mirror the selected geometry vertically around the point selected (NOTE - click twice- once for pick up point, once for set down point, must be the same point).
    4) With the select tool, select the original notch AND the new copied notch.
    5) Choose "Copy and Mirror Horizontal " tool and click the highlighted point in the 3rd JPG TWICE.
    6) Choose the "Trim/Extend One Line" tool, and trim away the excess flap geometry of the flaps to meet the notch as shown in the final JPG.
    7) Save this file. Now, in the future, if you need this option, use this file as a template and you will have a file with 4 attached notches!

    I hope that helps, this is a powerful program, get in there and have fun trying tools and always look at the gray bar in the bottom of the window for prompts on what the program is expecting from you... happy designing!!!!

    NOTE - JPGS are appearing out of order, the names of the files are STEP 1, STEP 2, STEP 3 and STEP 4. If you hover the mouse over each JPG, it should show you the filename....sorry, I couldn't get them to upload in the right order
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    Barrett
    Thank you for your suggestions .
    I'll try to do it the way you suggested
    I really appreciate your reply and help
    All the best and thank you again

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    Quote Originally Posted by pochtalion View Post
    Barrett
    Thank you for your suggestions .
    I'll try to do it the way you suggested
    I really appreciate your reply and help
    All the best and thank you again
    No Problem, best of luck and if you need anything else, please do not hesitate to ask.

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    Great alternative to AutoCAD but I really feel like getting a free one next time for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angen View Post
    What's the function of this notch? i can't find anybody knows for what.
    I'm still wondering WTF is "CMV notch"?
    It's not a simple bleed for diffrent colours.
    What's CMV abbreviation?

    somebody enlighten me, please

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    Its the only simple solution.

    Its the only simple solution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barrett View Post
    1)There is an option...copy and place it , simply!
    2)With the select tool, copy just the notch lines(see attached JPGs)
    3)Choose the "Copy and mirror Vertical" tool and click the point shown in second JPG. This will mirror the selected geometry vertically around the point selected (NOTE - click twice- once for pick up point, once for set down point, must be the same point).
    4) With the select tool, select the original notch AND the new copied notch.
    5) Choose "Copy and Mirror Horizontal " tool and click the highlighted point in the 3rd JPG TWICE.
    6) Choose the "Trim/Extend One Line" tool, and trim away the excess flap geometry of the flaps to meet the notch as shown in the final JPG.
    7) Save this file. Now, in the future, if you need this option, use this file as a template and you will have a file with 4 attached notches!

    I hope that helps, this is a powerful program, get in there and have fun trying tools and always look at the gray bar in the bottom of the window for prompts on what the program is expecting from you... happy designing!!!!

    NOTE - JPGS are appearing out of order, the names of the files are STEP 1, STEP 2, STEP 3 and STEP 4. If you hover the mouse over each JPG, it should show you the filename....sorry, I couldn't get them to upload in the right order

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    CMV notch

    ECMA standards have notches of bleeding in the four corners of the box, but this notch CMV is another thing ... I do not know.
    It makes no sense then copy and paste this flap four times.
    If you need a notch of bleeding, uses Standard ECMA.

    Perhaps it is to a packaging machine or automatic bonding.

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    Lightbulb CMV is Cartoning Machinery Vertical

    I found it! for this is the notch CMV:
    is related to the automatic packaging, vertical (CMV) or horizontal (CMH).
    I leave a few links. Look at google "CMV packaging" and youtube "CMV filling"



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    Cmv

    Yes its used for Cartoning machines.there are both horizontal and vertical.here in this case is for the vertical.I think its not require to cut the notch in all the dust flap.Also i expect its not a mistake of the ArtiosCAD and it may have some reasons.

    The wiki link:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartoning_machine

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